Forced Conversion

A December 26th news story mentions that Egyptian Christians have accused Muslims of abducting the women and forcing them to convert.  Now this is something that Christian and Muslims have been engaged in for around fifteen centuries.  If we put aside the abducting of women – which is a direct violation of the Koran and therefore proves the Muslim’s are just criminals born to the Islamic religion - What’s the big deal?

Forced conversion is a bit of a joke.  You cannot force conversion – from a religious viewpoint it is irrational and therefore makes it clear that those engaged in the practice are themselves irrational.

Consider this: if two individuals, who wish to reach a common destination, are, by chance, walking down a road and come to a fork in that road … one looks to the left, one to the right, and both BELIEVE they are looking down the proper/correct fork … what is their proper action?

Should they argue over which road leads to the desired destination?  Should one force the other to take and travel THEIR fork?  Or should they each journey as they will with the one who was right achieving their goal of arriving to the destination?  What if the general destination is the same, but different specific locations are sought?  (Two Egyptians heading to the Americas – one to North, the other to South. Or to the United States and one to Maine the other Florida – same government, different state jurisdictions.)

What if both roads go to that destination – and neither has made the wrong choice?  What if neither road gets them there and both their beliefs were wrong?  But to keep it simple, let us assume one is right and the other wrong.  Will the one who is forced be grateful that they have been brought kicking and screaming to the destination?  And what if they have been brought, kicking and screaming, down the wrong road – what response are they entitled to, what punishment can they bestow upon their abductor? 

Now, what if that destination only admits those who came willingly, and what if it also bars admission to those who force others to come there?

In terms of theology – is it valid to bring someone where they do not wish to be?  If so, could not Satan grab souls off the street in the same way the Muslims grab Christian women?  Or the same way Mormons retroactively seal deceased ancestors into a religion which, during the ancestor’s life, the ancestor did not know, nor would have had any interest in knowing?

It is interesting that Al-Qaida in Iraq turned the desire of the women to revert to their faith into a cause celebre when it cited the women as the reason behind a Baghdad church siege.  NOTE that Al-Qaida murderers – those who violate the Koran by killing innocents – are championing the validity of forced conversion.  Those who, by their nature and base doctrine, violate every basic tenet of every known religion, are the ones who are at the forefront in the support of forced conversion.  Just goes to show what the true purpose and value of the underlying religion is … pure evil and mutually assured spiritual destruction.

Alberto Gonzales - is he different from Bush?

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Date Line April 20, 2007

New York Times Editorial summarizing Alberto Gonzales appearance before Congress: “Mr. Gonzales came across as a dull-witted apparatchik incapable of running one of the most important departments in the executive branch.”

OK – how many birds with a single stone?

Gonzales is Hispanic – and incompetent. All Hispanics are peons and unfit for responsibility; hence the need to prevent them sneaking into the States.

Gonzales is a mini-Bush who caters to a party-line, protects the fraud and dishonesty of the Right-wing, is out to destroy the Constitution, and (add any more you choose).

Gonzales is typical of “the Bush management style”; which is to say, he cannot manage to put his own shoes on in the morning, much less discharge the managerial responsibilities of his high office.

Gonzales is playing the Bush “dummy” card. For Bush it is being the Texas cowboy who cannot speak his own language (never mind the Harvard and Yale degrees). For Gonzales, it is the stupid peon image – the “Is not my job,” Freddy Prinz’ “Chico” would proclaim.

It is the beauty of Right-wing logic. It is never their responsibility, never their “job”. If nothing else, they brush it off as some divine will which is being opposed by everyone else and only understood by them.

OK. Here is divine will. These jerks are destroying America and bigger jerks are out their yelling it is unpatriotic not to let them.

Hey! That’s cool.

As the Times Editorial concluded: “if we believe the testimony that neither he nor any other senior Justice Department official was calling the shots on the purge, then the public needs to know who was.“

OK so Congress and the Times are too dim witted to know the public is responsible. The voters are responsible. They elected Bush – twice – and have failed to have him impeached.

The people have allowed themselves to be robbed, and raped, by the Right-wing; and pray to some warped deity that it should continue.

It is a warped deity, because the one of every known scripture proclaims a deity who opposes war, opposes interference with others, opposes the denial of rights to strangers in its lands ...

Oh right, even our own Constitution proclaims anyone under our “jurisdiction” is covered ... hum that would mean anyone whose life, or freedom, we control...


Guess that included those Bush and Gonzales have ordered tortured. But that is yet another issue or responsibility.

About the only good thing to come of this? Christians who proclaim their support for the Right-wing are going straight to H-E-double hockey sticks. It’s in the passages they say they adhere to.

Oh how nice it will be to have a world devoid of those hypocrites.

Global warming will flood away all traces of their stupidity. Check a map of the Edgar Cayce projections – you’ll see. If I can, I might even post one here. Non-fundamentalist Mormons are screwed. But again, that is another issue; and explains why the Judaic holy city was placed high and dry.

Ah issues for a mystic-voice. Maybe later; but as an aside from a Times news report: “On Monday, 11 retired admirals and generals released a detailed 68-page report arguing that climate change could be a “threat multiplier” in already fragile parts of the world. Rising sea levels could threaten the livelihoods of more than one billion people living within 45 miles of Asia’s coastlines. In Africa, recurring heat waves could cause widespread shortages of food and water, leading to large-scale migrations and escalating tensions.”

The Right-wing is on record as disbelievers in global warming. They say their book of belief points out that they didn’t believe Noah either.
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