Monday, July 16, 2007

Shreknangst as incarnation of Shiva

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Date Line July 12, 2007

As the search, the quest, continues, it is both depressing and elating to find that there are footprints on the path ahead, and alongside. These wondrous markers are cited on the internet, and incorporated in these words:


Flavious Josephus said in his History of the Jews: "These Jews are derived from the Indian philosophers; they are named by the Indians Calani."

Megasthenes, sent to India by Seleucus Nicator, also said that the Jews were called "Kalani" and that they were an Indian tribe.

Clearchus of Soli said: "The Jews descend from the philosophers of India. The philosophers are called in India Calanians and in Syria Jews. The name of their capital is very difficult to pronounce. It is called Jerusalem."



The Indian Abraham (A-Brahma) suggests Brahmin whose consort and sister was named Saraisvati; in the Biblical Sarai or Sarah.

It is a stretch; and yet it finds the reality which associates the Chenchu with an ancestor who was the Hindu deity Shiva, and whose DNA has both the J2 and R1a1 Haplogroup; and not at all akin to any haplotype which we can assert to be native Indian.

The Brahmin are of Northern India; a priestly warrior class, or caste, which is associated with the Indus Valley; but carry markers associated with two tribes: the Middle Eastern J2, and the R1a1 of Central Asia.

Our problem, the problem associated with the sources cited above, is the dates of those sources. They are simply too recent. At the same time, the Hittite Laws and Rig Veda of 1500 BCE argue that there was a commonality of teachings in the period of Abraham.

Then too there is the Egyptian connection, the biblical assertion that both Pharaoh and Abraham shared a common deity and laws related to the taking of a man’s wife. And too, there is the circumcision issue to contend with; and why, in the time of Herodotus, only the Egyptian and the people of Colchis (by the Caucasus mountains along the Black Sea) near the Anatolia location of Eden’s rivers and Mount Ararat.

Connection upon connection. How ancient are the people of the book and the people of wisdom. How ancient those who prize wisdom, knowledge and understanding in a world which favors superstition?

“Path of the Serpent”, a poor work which traced the history of the world by the appearance of the serpent as a figure of devotion, first in the Cromagnum caves of Europe, and later across the world, has a cousin here. Mahadeva, the incarnation of Shiva from whom the Chenchu claim their descent, is represented with a snake entwined around his neck. What power has a serpent that it is to be feared?



Shiva is depicted seated upon a lion skin, his available trident, a cow at his back. How much does such a depiction invoke the drinking of milk, the power over both the sea and beasts of the land; how much does it depict the authority of the Aryan, the Scythian, those for whom there were no territorial limits?

Fumbling around with facts and thoughts.

Where do they go? There is not sufficient data to really make the trip back through time.

We know what exists for test now. We have origin hypothesis based upon apparent groupings. We know, or think we know, many things; but what of the ancient graves; what of the bodies cremated; what of the bodies placed out for the vultures, the sky-gods, to devour?

What of all that we do not have?

We see research which returns the mtDNA of history, we can argue this body connected to that mother and so to that father; but what do we know of the men?

The quest for the deities of yore, the quest for the source of ...
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